Jeremy Dash’s relationship with his brother Damon vacillated between extremes on the premiere season of Family Therapy but where do they stand today.
In an interview with VH1, Jeremy discusses getting to the best place they’ve ever been and then going back to not speaking, as well as the drama that followed his nieces and ex-sister-in-law Rachel Roy after Beyoncé’s Lemonade was released.
What did it take to convince all three of you to sign up for Family Therapy?
Jeremy Dash: I got a call from a producer or somebody, saying that Damon had already agreed to do the show and that Bobby had already agreed to do the show and then when I was approached, I was very against it. In my mind, at the beginning, my mindset was, why do I need to go on national television to hash out an issue with my brother when we should be able to do that on our own. It’s not for everyone to judge, and so I was hesitant to go for a while but I’m glad that I did.
Was there a conversation between you guys before you signed up?
I didn’t speak with Damon about it because I didn’t f–k with him for almost a year prior to meeting each other in LA that first day.
So, he told the producers he would do the show and it was their job to convince you and Bobby?
If I know how my brother’s mind works, I’m pretty sure he went into this thinking that it would be a good commercial for him to promote his brand because, he don’t give a s–t. I know him very well, he looked at it, I’m sure, as an opportunity to promote his brand, promote himself. But me and Bobby, we talked about it quite a bit and said, “Why not take this opportunity to hash this out?”
When I thought about it I said, “This is the perfect opportunity for me to expose Damon for the douche bag he really is. He has a reputation for being a bully, and being disrespectful and he’s obviously narcissistic sociopath but nobody’s really pulled his card in a public forum, the way I had the opportunity to do. No one stood up to him, the way I had the opportunity to do in front of America, and good because he needed that. The response that I get from the viewers and the fans is very positive and supportive and that alone is worth it for me. Just having people come up to me and saying, “Hey, Jeremy, I just want to commend you for putting up with your brother’s bulls–t,” that alone made it worth it for me.
Where do things stand with you and your brothers today?
Well, just to be clear, I never had an issue with my brother Bobby. I speak to Bobby numerous times a week just like I always have but as far as Damon is concerned? I will say this, we truly, truly for about a month after the show [wrapped], Damon and I were in the best place we’ve ever been, in our entire lives: speaking numerous times a week, respectfully. It was awesome just being brothers, talking, no bulls–t.
Little by little, there were glimmers of the old douche-baggery, he was fully reverting back to his old self. There was even an issue that Dr. Conte had gotten involved with, after the show that I thought was ridiculous.
What happened that got Dr. Conte involved?
My brother has a website, I think it’s called like, DamonDash.com or some s–t. For $10 a month you can pay to join his website and view all his content and listen to him talk all day long. I have a hard time listening to him talk for ten minutes without wanting to shoot myself so I chose not to pay $10 a month to join his website to hear him talk. He’s my brother, it’s not about business, it’s about family. He took offense that I didn’t join his website, and I kept procrastinating telling him because I didn’t want to be a dick and tell him straight up, “F–k you.”
Well, he was offended by that and he called Dr. Conte and told him [impersonating Dame Dash], “My brother Jeremy he won’t support me and join my website and pay the $10 a month.” [Then] Dr. Conte had called me one day, I’ll never forget the day, I was walking home from the gym. He said, “You know your brother’s upset.” I said, “What are you talking about?” He said, “Because you won’t join his website, he feels like you won’t support him.” I said, “Dude, is this about business or is this about family?” To me, it’s not about me paying money to join your website, I don’t give a f–k about your businesses, I don’t care about that s–t. I want to be brothers, that’s it. So, I call Dame, of course, he didn’t pick up the phone, and I left him a message, saying, “Listen, man. I love you but if you got nothing else to talk about with me other than business and what you wanna do with your brands and all that bulls–t. If you don’t want to talk about brotherly s–t, and family, and life then we have nothing to talk about and don’t call me.” I said, “If you want to talk to me like a human being and talk about life and about family and talk about normal things and not talk about business and why I didn’t pay to join your website give me a call.” I said, “I love you no matter what. Give me a buzz.” And guess what? I never heard from him and that’s the last time I reached out to him.
Actually, that’s not the last time I reached out to him. I reached out to him once more when the first episode of Family Therapy aired because I forgot, you know when you watch the show, you relive a lot of s–t and it stirs up a lot of feelings. And I forgot how much he lied on that show. For example, telling the world that, he said on that show that he helped take care of me. Let me tell you something, that couldn’t be a bigger crock of s–t. That’s a lie, that’s bulls–t. He never helped me, he never took care of me a day in his life, nor should he ever had to but the fact that these lies flow so easily out of his mouth really pissed me off, so I just shot him a text, and I know he read it. I said to him, “Hey, bro, I almost forgot how much you f–king lied while making the show just to make yourself look better. It’s amazing how easily the lies flow out of your mouth.” And that was it, that was the last time I reached out to him.
How long ago was that?
The premiere episode of Family Therapy, and prior to that we hadn’t spoken in many, many months. He was telling my brother Bobby, “You’re lucky I gave you this opportunity to come on this show and make money.” It’s like, “F–k you, man. It ain’t about that. Did you go on the show to make a f–king paycheck or did you go on the show to really try and make things better? You paid him all that money for what? So he could go on there and wear his fucking Poppington shirts and try and be Mr. Cool Man? It is what it is. I see myself getting upset, as I speak. It’s hard for me to talk about my brother Damon without getting upset because he’s such a douche bag. I love him but I do not like him.
Okay, so is it just the three of you or are their other siblings that you share?
No, sir. We are all, there’s the three of us and that’s it. We have no other brothers, no other sisters. We all share the same father, we all have different mothers.
Watching the show, as a viewer, it seemed like you didn’t all grow up together or that your experiences were very different. Did it ever feel like you were trying to work on a relationship that was never there?
No, because we had a great relationship. Me and Damon did a lot of cool s–t together. We were great, not great but we had a relationship. In my teenage years, I was around him a lot. I watched him build that Roc-A-Fella empire. I met Jay Z when nobody knew who the hell he was. I remember going to his apartment outside of New Jersey and watching basketball with him, and nobody knew who the f–k he was. I watched Damon build that brand. We were cool. We used to go to the Hamptons together and party and travel and laugh but he was always a douche bag. His thing is, he likes to belittle people.
I’ll never forget, this is a good example of the kind of person that he is, he brought me around Jay Z for one of the first times, I was around 17 years old. It was Jay Z and his partner Biggs [Burke], and we were in the Hamptons. I had a piercing in my lip at the time, I had my ears stretched, gauges and s–t. I’ve always been into that rock-n-roll type s–t, but anyway. Damon was relentlessly teasing me, teasing me, teasing me about this f–king piercing, in front of Jay Z and I’m embarrassed, this is Jay Z. And [Damon] was laughing at his own jokes, you know, putting me down and belittling me. But Jay was kind of looking at him like, “You’re a f–king asshole.” I could see it in his eyes, he wasn’t laughing. It got to the point where I said, “F–k this” and I unscrewed the spike out of my lip and threw it into the woods and I”ll never, ever forget that s–t. And Jay, he wasn’t saying anything but he wasn’t laughing, he was just looking at Damon like, “You’re a f–king p—k.” That’s just who he is, he gets off on putting other people down to make himself look better and I’m not with that and I don’t like that, I don’t respect that. That’s why I choose not to be around him because he’s still like that and he’ll probably never change. That’s why the only people around him are his girlfriends or the people that are using him as a stepping stone, or a come-up.
Where do he and Bobby stand since the show, as far as you know?
Him and Bobby speak, you know they speak. Whenever I talk to Bobby he usually fills me in on what’s on with Damon. Him and Bobby speak, every few weeks or so. I’ll let you know my brother Bobby got back surgery, and got pretty sick in the hospital with complications. Of course, Damon didn’t even reach out to him, he knew he was in the hospital but that’s Damon. I’m pretty sure they’re cool, but I’m pretty sure Bobby keeps him at an arm’s length. Like, he knows what time it is. He would never go work for him again or help him in a business sense ever again. Damon’s always wants to give opportunities to his “people” but really what he wants you to do is work for him and working for him isn’t very fun. [Laughs] I’d rather drink my own piss than work for him.
Are you optimistic about the future and where things could go?
I don’t know. You never say never. I don’t feel like that was enough time in that house, or enough therapy, we got so far so fast we almost gave up, like, “okay, we’re good now” but we weren’t good, we needed more time. As far as him and I, I’m good with where things are now. I don’t need to have a relationship with him, I haven’t had a real relationship with him for many years now and it doesn’t affect my life. But never say never, who knows what the future holds but as of right now, I’m good.
What was the general vibe like in the house? Did you form any friendships in the house?
Absolutely, going to that house was an unforgettable experience, the friends, the memories. I’ll never, ever forget my experience over there. I still keep in touch with a lot of people from the show. Michael Lohan has become like a big brother to me, I love that guy to death, him and I keep in touch, we’ve met since the show. We talk all the time. I talk to Brittany DeJesus all the time. Even Sister Patterson, we text on holidays sometimes. Dina [Lohan] will call me once in a while. Briana [DeJesus], I’ve spoken to Bam< [Margera]/B> briefly. April [Margera] and I are in touch on Facebook. I truly feel like there’s a bond that was created with us all, that nobody can take away from us. I have a lot of love for every single person in that house. The biggest douche bag in the house was my brother, but everybody else was awesome. Even Sister Patterson, she didn’t give me any problems. I wouldn’t take it back for the world, I truly care about everybody I went through the experience with.
How has life been for you since the show ended? I know you’re an actor, what have you been up to?
Right when I got back from Family Therapy, I started shooting the show Power which is on STARZ. I play a character on there by the name of “Chuleta” and it airs in July. Acting is my passion, it’s what I love to do. I love to perform, I love what I do. A dream of mine was always to be on television for an hour a week, every week as a recurring character on a TV show, I just never thought it would happen this way [on Family Therapy] where I’m on a TV show for an hour a week as a recurring role as myself. I actually feel a little added pressure, it’s cool, like people are like, “Jeremy, we’re rooting for you, get out there and kick ass.” I will not stop, this is my dream, this is my passion. And there’s no better feeling than being able to say I did it on my own.
That’s a good segue to ask, is there any part of you that feels burdened by having a brother who’s famous?
It’s frustrating because his reputation has trickled on me. I’ve been at an audition, or whatever, where people have assumed that I’m also like him. Like, I have the same attitude as him or I’m a dick like him but he’s kind of old news and I’m my own person and not for nothing, this current generation they don’t even really know who he is. I am a Dash, I am Damon’s brother, but I am not Damon.
You mentioned that Dash last name, and I have to ask what it’s like to have your cousin Stacey in the spotlight making controversial comments in the media?
I tell you what, I feel bad for her children, I don’t feel bad for her because she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s her own person, I got nothing to do with that, she’s entitled to her opinion. The bottom line is, she is entitled to her opinion now whether or not she was paid to say all that wild s–t or whether it was a publicity stunt or if she really feels that way, I don’t know. I don’t speak to Stacey on a regular basis but I don’t necessarily agree with anything that she said but again, in the social media driven society that we live in, unfortunately, it’s very easy for people to reach out and touch you. So when Stacey says some wild s–t like that and I go on Instagram and I see that there are millions of people writing on her kids’ page, or her page, or even my page horrible, disrespectful things it hurts.
It goes back to that whole Beyonce s–t about the Lemonade song about Damon’s ex-wife. I see hundreds, and hundreds, probably thousands of people putting lemons and buzzing bees on my niece, what is she eight or nine-years-old? I don’t even know. My niece, Tallulah, on a little girl’s Instagram page, and telling them, “You know your mother’s a whore and a THOT.” You know that hurts, man. I feel horrible for them.
Is there anything you’ve tried to do to try and protect them?
They’re not my children. I’ll tell you one thing, if they were my children they wouldn’t have a f–king Instagram page. No eight-year-old girl belongs on social media in my opinion. I have a six-year-old son myself and you can bet your ass he ain’t gonna have no Instagram or Facebook page until he’s a teenager. It’s a scary thing. When I was growing up you couldn’t do that. I see my nieces being berated on social media but again, they’re not my children. I think it’s a little negligent of both Rachel and Damon to allow their children, at that age, to be on social media but that’s their prerogative.
Do you have a good relationship with your nieces?
I used to, not anymore, I don’t see them. I don’t speak to them. They’re on the West Coast, you know, I used to see them through Damon. If I don’t see Damon, I”m not going to see them. I have a great relationship with Damon’s youngest son [Christian] who I probably see more than Damon himself, to be honest with you. He’s very close with my son and he’s always over my house. I love my nieces and nephews to death, but unfortunately as far as his kids with Rachel are concerned I don’t see them.
Well, thanks so much for chatting and being so forthcoming, Jeremy.
You got it. I like to talk. A lot of people are out there the fans are saying they need that Dash Brothers reality TV show, or if you wanna lock me in a cage with Damon and have us fight on Pay-Per-View, no rules, I will whoop his ass up and down that ring.
Now that you mention it, would you do another show about your real life with your brothers?
I would because there’s a story behind our story. There is a lot that was not touched on that show and Damon, Bobby, and I are three very different personalities and honestly, I think it would make for very good TV. That is something I would definitely consider, under the right circumstances, for sure. I think it would be interesting.